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- Nov. 13, 1989: Arsenio Hall:"Let's Get Busy!!"
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- TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1989
- Cover Stories
- Nov. 13, 1989 Arsenio Hall
- </history>
- <article>
- <source>Time Magazine</source>
- <hdr>
- VIDEO, Page 92
- COVER STORY: "Let's Get Busy!!"
- </hdr>
- <body>
- <p>Hip and hot, talk host Arsenio Hall is grabbing the post-Carson
- generation
- </p>
- <p>By Richard Zoglin
- </p>
- <p> Just a few minutes before the TV taping is to start on this
- sunny Tuesday afternoon, an earthquake strikes San Francisco.
- But the only tremor felt by the crowd filing into a Paramount
- sound stage 350 miles to the south is one of anticipation. Two
- women from New Orleans are congratulating themselves on getting
- into the show twice in three days (they stood in line for
- tickets at 7 a.m.). A couple of teenage guys from Orange County
- are making time with two girls they met in line. A twentyish
- blond from Los Angeles sings the praises of the young comic she
- is waiting to see: "He's young, he's hip, he's personable, he's
- humble. He's just himself--that's the biggest compliment you
- can pay him."
- </p>
- <p> Arsenio Hall, at the same moment, has no inkling of the
- earthquake either. (The news reaches him later, midway through
- the show, though he doesn't mention it on the air.) With minutes
- to go before his 5:15 deadline, he is in his dressing room,
- slipping into a stylish double-breasted jacket, glancing briefly
- at his cue cards and getting some final dabs of makeup. With
- only seconds to spare, he bops downstairs, wades through a
- phalanx of enthusiastic staffers, then darts behind a blue
- translucent curtain. The band blares, the announcer wails. Hall
- sinks to one knee for a few seconds of silent prayer. Then he
- slides over to his mark and assumes his opening pose: head
- bowed, legs apart, hands pressed together.
- </p>
- <p> And suddenly the earth really rocks.
- </p>
- <p> Hall raises a clenched fist and rotates it in a circle,
- inspiring the crowd to respond with its trademark barking
- chant: "Wooh! Wooh! Wooh!" He races over to bandleader Michael
- Wolff and greets him by touching index fingers. (No
- old-fashioned high-fives on The Arsenio Hall Show.) He bounds
- in and out of the audience, paying special attention to the
- folks in the bad seats behind the band. By the end of his
- opening monologue, the crowd is wired. Johnny Carson signals the
- start of his show with a decorous golf swing. Hall launches the
- proceedings with a cry of "Let's...get...BUSY!!"
- </p>
- <p> We are seeing the future of the TV talk show, and it is,
- well, funky. The Arsenio Hall Show, a weeknightly joyride on 167
- stations nationwide, is less a talk show than a televised party:
- hip, hyperkinetic and hot. The host can't sit still, and the
- crowd can't get enough of him. At any moment, Hall might race
- into the studio audience in response to a shouting fan, or sidle
- over to his five-piece house band ("my posse") for some
- impromptu jamming. Meanwhile, as late-night's first successful
- black talk host, he has turned his guest couch into TV's
- liveliest melting pot. Rap groups get as much attention as
- Hollywood legends; George Hamilton or Glenn Close might find
- themselves rubbing elbows with one of the Jacksons--Jesse or
- Bo. And when things get slow, Eddie Murphy or Mike Tyson could
- drop in unannounced. Man, this show is loose!
- </p>
- <p> Since its debut last January, The Arsenio Hall Show has
- passed both Pat Sajak and David Letterman in the ratings, to
- take the No. 2 slot behind Carson's venerable Tonight show.
- Hall's show ranks No. 1 among the important under-35 audience.
- "I take the view that the public has elected me as a new
- late-night talk-show host," he says enthusiastically. "I've
- worked all my life preparing for it, putting together a platform--my kind of guests, my kind of music, what I think is funny.
- I've been warming up in the '80s, but I'm really for the '90s.
- I'm the talk-show host for the MTV generation."
- </p>
- <p> The TV industry is getting the message. Rather than merely
- redistribute the existing late-night audience, Hall's show has
- attracted new viewers. Some urban contemporary radio stations
- have noticed a drop in their listenership when Hall is on the
- air. The inevitable TV imitators are starting to appear, notably
- The Byron Allen Show on CBS, a Saturday-night talk show with
- another black comic as host. Even fuddy-duddies like Carson and
- Sajak seem to be feeling the heat. Would rock acts like Simply
- Red and Stevie B. have been booked in the days before Hall?
- </p>
- <p> Not that Carson is in imminent danger of losing his title
- as late-night king. After soaring during the summer, Hall's
- ratings have slacked off a bit this fall. (The kids who
- constitute his main audience, explain show executives, have gone
- back to school.) Through it all, Tonight's ratings have remained
- relatively stable. "This race is not a sprint, it's a marathon,"
- notes Brandon Tartikoff, president of NBC Entertainment.
- "Whatever burns the brightest, fades the fastest."
- </p>
- <p> Complacency would be a mistake, however: Hall's popularity
- may signal a geologic shift in late-night TV. The rise and fall
- of potential rivals to Carson--from Alan Thicke to Joan Rivers--has become an industry joke. But Hall is the first to catch
- on, and he has done it by reaching out to a new group of
- viewers. It is not Carson's audience, Hall likes to point out,
- but Carson's audience's children. "The Tonight show is an
- institution," says Steve Allen, who started it all back in
- 1954. "But with each tick of the clock, its advantage
- disappears. The Tonight show audience is dying every day." No
- need to convince Mel Harris, president of Paramount Television,
- the company that syndicates The Arsenio Hall Show. "In the
- 1960s, Johnny Carson started with a young audience that stuck
- with him for 20 years," he says. "Arsenio's is the new
- generation."
- </p>
- <p> Hall has a new-generation approach to stardom as well: try
- to do it all. At 30, he is not only the headliner but also the
- executive producer of his show. He hires the staff, okays the
- guests and even wrote the theme music. (He has a substantial
- share of the show's profits.) He has recorded a comedy-music
- album, Large and In Charge, scheduled for release later this
- month. On it he performs in the persona of an alter ego, a fat
- rapper named Chunky A, whom Hall played as a "guest" on his show
- last May. He has made a video as Chunky A, now airing on MTV.
- A movie career, meanwhile, has sprouted almost effortlessly.
- Last year Hall co-starred with his best pal Eddie Murphy in
- Coming to America, the No. 2 box-office hit of 1988. Next week
- he will be back onscreen with Murphy in Harlem Nights.
- </p>
- <p> With his all-gums smile, flattop hairdo and exuberant,
- affable manner, Hall seems like an overgrown kid surveying a
- roomful of candy. His conversation is frank, unaffected,
- headlong. "When I'm on the air, I'm happy," he says, relaxing
- in his mirrored office on the Paramount lot, a muted TV set
- overhead tuned in to MTV. He is dressed in his typical off-hours
- duds: baseball cap, Reebok T shirt and unlaced sneakers. "I was
- born to do this. When I'm in the spotlight, I'm gone. I love it
- more than anything in the world. When everyone is barking and
- screaming, it's the best feeling I've ever felt, like a
- three-point jumper with one second left in the championship game
- against Boston. Better than an orgasm."
- </p>
- <p> The show, for both good and ill, reflects that boyish,
- MTV-inspired energy. To his credit, Hall has shaken some of the
- dust off the stodgy talk-show format. His set has no desk;
- instead, Hall interviews guests on a modish chair-and-sofa
- ensemble, leaning forward intently. There is no Ed McMahon-style
- sidekick; Hall prefers to trade quips with the crowd or play
- around with the band in recurring bits like the "poetry
- moments," featuring various sidemen reading silly verse.
- Musically, the show has brought on a host of rock performers--Kool Moe Dee, Living Colour, Winger--who rarely get exposure
- on mainstream TV. And in contrast to the carefully stage-managed
- routines on the Tonight show, Hall's manic energy sends a signal
- that just about anything can happen at his nightly party. "There
- used to be a feeling that late at night people wanted to be put
- to sleep by a talk show," says producer Marla Kell Brown, 28.
- "But I don't think that's true for our generation. We want high
- energy."
- </p>
- <p> Hall's one concession to talk-show tradition is to perform
- an opening monologue. His topical jokes are lame compared with
- Carson's or Jay Leno's, but he exposes himself in a way those
- cool satirists never do. Talking about Ralph Abernathy's book,
- in which the former civil rights leader made allegations about
- the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s sexual escapades, Hall barely
- disguised his anger. "He's just jealous," said Hall. "Probably
- hasn't been with three women in his life...Martin's still
- my hero. Right on!"
- </p>
- <p> With guests, too, Hall often drops the reserve that talk
- hosts are supposed to maintain. Impulsive, sometimes off-color
- remarks frequently slip out. When actress Sally Kirkland told
- Hall she thought he was wonderful, he replied, "I can tell--your nipples are hard." (Even Hall admits that one crossed the
- line.) An interview with filmmaker Spike Lee last June turned
- into a testy debate over remarks Lee had made criticizing Eddie
- Murphy for not helping blacks get more top jobs in Hollywood.
- "It takes time," said Hall, springing to his friend's defense.
- "And the change doesn't occur any quicker if you go to the
- Caucasian journalists looking to stir up conflict and tell them
- what you think about your black brother." (The dispute didn't
- end there. Lee later called Hall an Uncle Tom, and Hall canceled
- Lee's next appearance on the show. The two have since patched
- up their differences--or at least agreed to keep them
- private.)
- </p>
- <p> Most of the time, however, the conversation on The Arsenio
- Hall Show is just what you'd expect from a talk show that bills
- itself as a party: lots of small talk, much of it boring. Hall's
- show-biz gush rivals Merv Griffin's or Rivers' at their most
- unctuous. His treatment of guests is overly deferential, his
- questions stultifying softballs. ("Let's talk about pet peeves,"
- ran a setup for Kirstie Alley.) The talk on Carson's Tonight
- show may be programmed and artificial, but at least it gives the
- illusion of a real conversation. Hall seems tied to preset
- questions and often appears disconnected and unresponsive. Too
- many comments elicit a blank "mmm-hmmm," followed by an awkward
- silence.
- </p>
- <p> But, hey, do his fans care? At a time when most talk shows
- have moved into controversial issues (Phil, Oprah, even Rivers)
- or anti-talk-show parody (Letterman), Hall has returned the
- genre to its original raison d'etre: old-fashioned, unapologetic
- stargazing. His innovation has been to set the show-biz plugs
- to a bracing rock beat. And if you prefer a little more
- substance with your MTV flash, boy, are you stuck in the '80s.
- </p>
- <p> Hall bridles at the criticisms his show has received. "One
- critic accused me of fawning over second-rate talent. How dare
- he! In the ghetto the game is respect. If I book you, I'm
- committed to you. I'm an entertainer, not a tough interviewer.
- My philosophy is to leave my ego at the door and get the best
- out of my guests." Yet Hall concedes that his interviewing
- skills need work. He is currently being coached by New York
- City-based media consultant Virginia Sherwood. Among her tips:
- ask more follow-up questions and avoid overusing words like
- interesting.
- </p>
- <p> The press's fixation on race nettles Hall even more. Though
- he takes pride in giving exposure to many black performers ("I
- have a commitment to correcting the wrongs of TV history"), Hall
- insists he is doing a show for everybody, black and white. "I'm
- out to bring the ghetto to the suburbs and the suburbs to the
- ghetto. I want (rapper) Tone-Loc and Major Ferguson, Fergie's
- dad, on the same couch. Most white people have never been to a
- party at a black person's house. I hope they say, `This one
- looks nice--maybe I'll try it.'"
- </p>
- <p> In addition to his tiff with Spike Lee, Hall has been
- embroiled in a feud with Willis Edwards, president of the
- Beverly Hills-Hollywood chapter of the N.A.A.C.P. When Hall's
- show began, Edwards complained publicly about the scarcity of
- blacks in key behind-the-scenes positions. (Hall's producer and
- director, as well as the vice president of his production
- company, are all white women.) According to Hall, after making
- the statements Edwards asked for a $40,000 contribution to his
- organization, a request that Hall told a reporter "sounds like
- extortion to me." Edwards denied asking for money and slapped
- Hall with a $10 million slander suit.
- </p>
- <p> No wonder Hall sometimes feels besieged. "My manager told
- me not to be angry, but I am," he says. "I give 110%. I resent
- the fact that (for some white critics) I have to be whiter to
- be a star. And then there are the jabs from my own people, the
- implication that I have to be unfair to whites to make blacks
- happy. I am angry. I'm on a tightrope, and people are punching
- me from every direction."
- </p>
- <p> Hall has done some punching of his own, especially at his
- rival on CBS, Pat Sajak. Both Hall and Sajak launched new talk
- shows at the same time last winter, but it was the white-bread
- Sajak, host of the top-rated game show Wheel of Fortune, who got
- most of the attention. "Sajak was always the golden boy," gripes
- Hall, "though nothing on paper makes him more eligible for that
- title." Sajak's CBS show, after a strong start, has been sinking
- in the ratings. "As long as there's an alternative to Sajak,"
- offers Hall, "the public will always take it."
- </p>
- <p> He has kinder words for Leno, Carson's regular fill-in and
- current heir apparent: "He's a pure funny man, more exciting
- and interesting than Sajak." Hall also praises David Letterman
- for "forcing America to loosen its collar a bit and not take
- things too seriously." Hall's top praise, however, is reserved
- for Carson: "He has an incredible understanding of when he's
- needed and when he's not. He'll insert comedy when there's a bad
- guest and stay out of Robin Williams' way. Doing a talk show for
- him is like a snooze alarm on a clock: he can find it in the
- dark. He doesn't care about numbers or competitors. It's like
- Tyson: nobody can beat him but him."
- </p>
- <p> Hall's admiration for Carson has a long history. Growing up
- in an inner-city neighborhood of Cleveland, Hall used to set up
- chairs in his basement and pretend he was Johnny. Years later,
- between appearances on Hollywood Squares and The Match Game, he
- sneaked into Carson's NBC studio, sat in his chair and practiced
- saying, "We'll be right back." Says Hall without a trace of
- irony: "Johnny is the architect of all my dreams."
- </p>
- <p> Dreams like that were a way of escaping from a grim ghetto
- childhood. At four, Hall recalls sitting on the toilet and
- watching a rat run between his legs. His next-door neighbor was
- shot during a pickup football game. Hall recently returned home
- for a visit and reflected on the fates of his high-school
- classmates. "Von is dead, killed in a fight over a girl.
- Weathersby is dead, killed over an argument over `last call' in
- a bar. Freddie's in jail. Jack was picked up for selling cocaine
- and hanged himself in the prison cell. Tyrone, the star
- basketball player, is in jail on two counts of murder. `Yo,
- man,' I said to myself. `Nobody got out but you.'"
- </p>
- <p> Hall's father, a Baptist preacher, was an old-fashioned
- disciplinarian who forbade dancing in the house and made his
- son dress up for dinner. He had frequent fights with Hall's
- strong-willed mother Annie, many of them over which radio
- station to listen to. (Dad liked gospel and Harry Belafonte; Mom
- preferred the Top 40.) "It wasn't unusual for me to see my dad
- go for a gun during the arguments," he recalls. "It wasn't just
- screaming--much deeper and more traumatic. I developed a rash
- and started sleepwalking. They'd find me in the garage in the
- morning, sleeping in the car."
- </p>
- <p> When he was five, his mother walked out, taking Hall and
- moving in with his grandmother, who lived around the corner.
- Thereafter Hall's childhood was a disjointed and lonely one.
- "Teachers would write on my report card, `Arsenio needs
- attention. Is there anything you can do about it?'" Yet his
- grades were good, and he avoided drugs in high school--though
- he admits to a rebellious period as a senior. "You couldn't get
- close to him," remembers Marjorie Banks, his old Sunday school
- teacher and the wife of former Chicago Cubs star Ernie Banks.
- "When you talked to him, he'd see you and yet he didn't see you.
- His mind was always on something else."
- </p>
- <p> Show-biz stirrings came early. As a teenager, Hall hired
- himself out as a magician at parties and played drums and bass
- guitar in a couple of groups. He started college at Ohio
- University and finished at Kent State, where he majored in
- speech communication and played the lead in the musical Purlie
- Victorious. After graduation, Hall went to work in Detroit for
- Noxell, the makers of Noxema skin cream. But one evening after
- tuning in to a Tonight show segment, he decided the moment had
- come "to do what I'd been dreaming about." He quit his job the
- next day.
- </p>
- <p> His climb up the show-biz ladder had few missteps. He moved
- to Chicago and began honing a stand-up act in comedy clubs.
- "Even then he seemed to have something extra," says Art Gore,
- a friend from those days. "He had a rapport with the people; he
- could adjust his comedy to fit the audience in the club." In
- 1979 singer Nancy Wilson hired Hall to emcee her stage show in
- Chicago. When she arrived late, he had to improvise with the
- audience for 20 minutes. It went well, and Wilson hired him as
- her regular warm-up act. Hall soon moved to Los Angeles and
- started picking up work opening for other singers, from Robert
- Goulet to Tina Turner.
- </p>
- <p> In 1984 Hall landed a job that provided a strange foretaste
- of his current success: as Alan Thicke's sidekick on the much
- ballyhooed, short-lived Carson challenger, Thicke of the Night.
- Thicke remembers the young comic fondly. "I think I recognized
- that if anyone was going to be the Jackie Robinson of late
- night, it was Arsenio," he says. After the show flopped, says
- Thicke, "I know writers who removed my name from their resumes.
- Arsenio remained a friend in failure, and you learn to
- appreciate those people in a year like that."
- </p>
- <p> Hall did not stay out of the talk-show ring for long. In
- 1986 he joined Marilyn McCoo as co-host of Solid Gold, a
- syndicated music show. Then he got a call from the Fox Network,
- asking him to be a last-minute replacement for Frank Zappa as
- fill-in host of The Late Show, which had just dumped Rivers, its
- original star. Hall's stint went so well that he was asked back
- twice the following week. Soon he was doing the program full
- time.
- </p>
- <p> Hall's hip, high-intensity style increased the ratings of
- the troubled show, but it was too late. Fox had already decided
- to scrap the program in favor of a new late-night entry, The
- Wilton North Report. "I was able to do a lot of stuff because
- the Fox executives weren't watching," says Hall. "No one cared."
- When Wilton North was a quick failure, Fox asked Hall to return.
- But by this time his attention was elsewhere, notably in movies:
- he had just shot Coming to America, the first of a three-picture
- deal with Paramount. Hall turned down the Fox offer.
- </p>
- <p> But a better one was in the offing. Last year Paramount
- proposed another late-night talk show; Hall would be executive
- producer as well as star, and he would be guaranteed time off
- to make movies. He was still reluctant. But a guest appearance
- with Carson on Tonight got his talk-show juices flowing again,
- and he finally agreed.
- </p>
- <p> "Arsenio eats, sleeps and breathes the show," says Cheryl
- Bonacci, vice president of Arsenio Hall Communications, which
- was formed last year to handle his TV and record affairs. "When
- he's not doing that, he's sitting in his house writing songs.
- Things like going out just aren't important to him right now."
- Hall usually arrives at the office around 11, conducts personal
- business and prepares for the late-afternoon taping. After the
- show, he reviews the tape with producer Brown, who worked with
- him on The Late Show. Most nights he watches the show again at
- home by himself, then takes a look at Carson, Sajak and
- Letterman before going to bed, usually around 2 a.m., with a
- talk-radio station droning in the background. Says he: "I can't
- go to sleep without it."
- </p>
- <p> Brown and Bonacci are two of his relatively few close
- friends. Another is Murphy, whom he met at Los Angeles' Comedy
- Store in 1980. "Eddie's the brother I never had," says Hall. "We
- share intimate secrets. We cry together. There's no
- competitiveness between us. When I called and told him I had
- been signed by Paramount, he couldn't have been happier." Though
- Hall has been linked with Murphy's so-called black pack--a
- group of young black performers and filmmakers, among them
- actor-directors Robert Townshend and Keenen Ivory Wayans--Hall
- says the others are only casual friends.
- </p>
- <p> Speculation about Hall's girlfriends has ranged from
- Dynasty's Emma Samms (they dated a few years ago, says Hall, but
- are no longer involved) and Newhart's Mary Frann (too old for
- him, he insists) to singer-choreographer Paula Abdul ("just very
- good friends"). Hall refuses to identify the current "special
- woman" in his life and claims to spend much of his time after
- hours by himself. "My life is in front of people," he says, "so
- when I go home, I don't want to hear voices."
- </p>
- <p> Home is a relatively modest four-bedroom house in the San
- Fernando Valley, decorated in blue and filled with electronic
- gear. ("I'm very high-tech oriented. I wouldn't have a TV
- without doors that open electronically.") His garage houses two
- cars: a white 1986 Jaguar XJS and a Mustang convertible. He
- stays in close touch with his mother, who is a big fan ("No one
- barks louder at my show than my mom") and for whom he bought a
- condo in West Hollywood. For relaxation, Hall tried painting for
- a while but gave it up; took tennis lessons but "hated them."
- Says he: "I'm not an outdoor person at all."
- </p>
- <p> Which pretty much leaves work. In addition to the
- five-day-a-week grind of his show, Hall has taped some antidrug
- commercials and is working with Reebok to promote a shoe that
- would "pay tribute to antiapartheid awareness." He co-wrote and
- co-produced his new Chunky A record album. Its cuts include a
- comic rap number, a satire of raunch rock ("Let me check your
- oil with my dipstick") and a straight-faced antidrug anthem
- titled Dope, the Big Lie.
- </p>
- <p> After meshing amiably with Murphy in Coming to America (in
- which he played multiple roles, ranging from a grizzled
- barber-shop customer to a fiery evangelist), Hall seems poised
- for a movie breakthrough. In Harlem Nights, which Murphy wrote
- and directed, Hall is onscreen for only a few minutes, as a
- gangster who "hates Eddie's guts." He is currently talking with
- producers Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer (Beverly Hills Cop)
- about starring in an action-comedy, which would probably be shot
- next fall. "By then," Hall says, "either I'll have a grasp on
- what I'm doing or be sharing a condo with Dick Cavett
- somewhere."
- </p>
- <p> No sweat; he already seems to have a pretty good grasp on
- the success that has engulfed him. Hall claims he would be happy
- doing his talk show forever, but he seems fully tuned in to the
- precariousness of fame in a medium that chews up stars like M
- & M's. "One bad show, and I'm mentally packing a U-Haul," he
- says. "But I don't want to start playing it safe. I accept the
- fact that I can't have it forever. Ali was the greatest, but
- someday someone beat him, and someone beat the guy who beat him.
- When I was in high school, J.J. Walker was the hottest. Recently
- I saw a (cable) special in which people walked by him and joked,
- `That's Arsenio Hall.' Because I'm hot, and he's not."
- </p>
- <p> "It's scary," he muses, glancing at the rock video playing
- silently on the TV screen overhead. "Someday I'll be the punch
- line."
- </p>
- <p>-- Dan Cray and Elaine Dutka/Los Angeles
- </p>
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